"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart. If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains."
Sir Winston Churchill

Obama obviously knows very little about economics, specifically that "Society stagnates when independent productive achievers begin to be socially demonized and even punished for their accomplishments." This dilemma fogs Obama's reality. To him, accepting this truth is a "false choice", his answer to things he doesn't understand. And by the way... where is John Galt?

Thursday, February 11, 2010

The European Union Subjects have lost their Passion and this is where Obama wants us to be.

The LondonTimes Online (02/11/10) Posted my Tease about the EU leaders being on verge of a deal to bailout Greece and save the Euro. There were 54 recommendations and comments in the first 12 hours to my tease, which read:

"This may be the beginning of a swift end to the Elitist Union. Why has there not been any interest in a union consisting of Britain, Canada, US, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. Seems like a better fit for the anglo-saxon base. As far as the EU, Germany wants to run everything, France wants to have it all their way, and the Brits would never be in it if they were allowed to vote."
A sampling of the comments follows:
W Davis, that is an interesting idea. But I would suggest that there already exists a de facto alliance of Britain & the US, and to a lesser extent the minor players (<35 million pop.) Canada & Aus, and to an even lesser extent Ireland, RSA, & NZ. A voluntary union of this type is stronger and more beneficial than an imposed union like the EU. Do Brits have more in common (culturally, politically, economically, historically) with Yanks, Aussies, and Canadians on the one hand or Greeks, Romanians, Lithiuanians, Germans, Poles, Slovenians, etc on the other? EU just doesn't make sense for Britain. Geography is the only thing binding it (barely) to Europe.

Spot on, W Davis! We need to join up with those who share our values, culture, language, and mostly share our political system too.

R B wrote:
Interesting concept except that we've had it with the cancer of socialism and the multiculturalism that has robbed Europe and the UK of its common sense. Fighting like Hell to beat back the hordes sporting the banner of the argument of ignorance.

T Blackstone - sorry, but I dont think that Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand are going to allow themselves to be regarded as "minor players" any more by a bankrupt, corrupt, defunct social basket case like the UK. Maybe if you can sort yourselves out - come back in 50 years.

It would be a nice idea to create a Voluntary Union of Anglo saxon countries. However, while the liberal here in the US would go for it, Conservative Republicans would be hopelessly against it.

CHRIS FRY wrote:
Many of the writers in this comment section seem to have no grasp of the reality of modern Europe. Even the narrow minded leaders of the UK opposition party know it would be economic suicide for the UK to withdraw from the EU. The EU, for all its faults, is the greatest example of multiple & diverse states co-operating peacefully together that has ever existed. It's the reason why Croatia, Serbia, Turkey & many others would love to join the EU as soon as possible. We in the UK have far more in common with Germany, Poland & the other EU countries than we do with the USA.

chris fry wrote: "We in the UK have far more in common with Germany, Poland & the other EU countries than we do with the USA."
What planet do you live on Chris? Quite the contrary, the UK and USA are virtually identical as both nations have little in common with Europe!
UK and USA = Both use the English language
UK and USA = English common law.
UK and USA = Shared history, cuulture, and heritage
UK and USA = US Declaration of Independence and US Constitution are influenced by the Magna Carta (1215), English Bill of Rights (1689), and the writings of John Locke.

I am absolutely convinced that the British Empire should be resurrected. Only this time, the U.S.A. should rejoin Britain's imperial family of nations. It would be nice to have the British monarch as America's head of state again. And I happen to believe that the Anglo-Saxon model of economics would be a powerful force to reckon with. Both Britain and America already have the world's two most powerful militaries. If both nations could get their finances in order and bring all Commonwealth nations around the world back into the fold, Britain and America could swallow up the EU and China combined. A nice idea though, but probably not realistic.

hmm first time in a while ive seen a pro-american thread

T MARTINS wrote:
@Nathan Graf : The second army in the world is France and China, not the British one. Go check the military expenditures on wipikedia. And the British monarch as America head of state ? Come on let's be serious. An union of Anglosaxon countries ? USA are already declining, why the hell they would accept such a burden ?

To W. Davis, An excellent idea that would be beneficial to all of us. Those that share common goals and common history should band together. It will be imperative to our survival eventually. We should not wait until it becomes critical.

When, for a brief moment, I take the posters here as a crosssection of the British nation then my assessment would be : the Brits are a nation of dreamers. They don't like the EU for not beeing the leading country in it. Logically they flea into another Union - the A/S union and lead the way of the US. Keep dreaming.

These typical comments from EUers are toporific and without the passion we have in American Politics. It seems that European Socialism has sucked the energy from these posters. They attempt to make points, but they don't try to convince anyone. This is the way Obama and his "I'm agnostic about taxing the middle-class" statement informs us where he wants Americans to be.... HELL NO!

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